Jen Allen has been a very visible potter on the national scene for the past several years. I met her last year at the Utilitarian Clay Conference at Arrowmont, which was right after my daughter was born and a few months before Jen had her first child. This is a “new parent heavy” episode, and rightly so. The world that Jen and I live in, and try to make work in, has been so fundamentally changed that we can’t but help to talk about how much things have changed. None of this is new to people who have children who are grown or are older than toddler age. But it is to us, and when we sat down the natural inclination was to check in with each other (and ourselves). We talk about what success means for us now, how to go about improving work with so much else on our plates, and keeping up momentum. Great talk! Enjoy!